Let Me Ask You: Why the Triangle of Love?

Tuesday, 7 October 2014

It’s a given that Young Adult fiction generally entails a romantic requirement. Whether it features as an inoffensive or an eclipsing theme is up to the author’s discretion. But then it goes further—the road splits into two. And much like when we spot a split end, we groan. Two ends means two roads. Two love interest. One main character. 

There are two types of people (now I’m generalising here but let me have my moment) when it comes to split ends: those who refuse to give them the time of day and those who rumble through their belongings for a pair of scissors, eager to rid themselves of yet another strand of indecisive hair. Same goes when the road to romance is split; there are those who love a bit of extra eye candy (because let’s not kid ourselves here, when have these love interest not been some scrumptiously described, albeit fictional, characters?) and those who gag at the sight of fickleness. But then there are those who are fickle themselves. They don’t mind the occasional love triangle (one may even hear them talk about “sailing ships”) but then further down the track, there they are, cursing like a sailor, damning the fact that there are two ships in the sea. 
So when you think about it, there’s about half a market for love triangles. But there are more triangles flooding the market than there is a demand. So why? Why is it so popular to undertake the triangle route? Are things better in three? Should we be concerned at the promotion of polygamy? Does it translate better to live a fictional fantasy where we pit character against character, allowing them to vie for a “hand in marriage”. Or does controversy simply sell better? 

I’ve hit a hitch. As in, I’m a tad confused. I’ll tell you straight up right now: I have a double standard that favours no particular group (because I can't tell the difference between why I can stomach one over the other) for I am one of the fickle few who find themselves cursing the love triangle on one hand and and on the other, I'm taking sides (that’s right. I pit ship against ship.) Hold on, what I mean is that if there’s a triangle (that I empathise with—there’s no point picking anything if I feel no connection to the characters), I’ll perpetuate it. I pick a side. BUT I’m not happy that I have to do so. I’m grumbly, bitter and upset because the chances lie in favour of a future where I have “ship uncertainty” for three or more books (because everything is in a damn series nowadays.) So let’s recap: I hate love triangles, but in some cases, I’ll pick a side. What’s up with that? What makes one triangle better than the next? I preach consistency like water and air but here I am being incredibly inconsistent. I love patterns and my inability to deduce this pattern bothers me. 

Now sure, I won’t deny that there’s a market for triangles because there is. There are people who live off choosing between two fabulous love interest for the protagonist. It’s a game to them. But more often than not, I see people condemning the love triangle. From personal experience, it’s more of a 3:1 ratio, in favour of hate. That begs the question: if we all passionately hate the promotion of fickleness, why on earth are there so many novels that escalate, emphasis and encourage indecision? I’ve thought about the many possibilities, all of which shall be condensed into the following: 

1. Having a series calls for time, attention and plot. And a lot of it. 
We’re a generation surrounded by the distracting likes of technology and it's offspring, gadgets. It means, we’re…easier to distract. And I know from personal experience that if something is deemed not worthy my time, I’ll let it go. Everything’s ever-changing. New television shows pop up like grass blades (odd simile but hey, don’t question it, go with it. Grass grows quickly, alright.) Mobile phones get upgraded bi-annually. Books come out every week (those tuesdays drain my wallet like nobody’s business.) So if a series loss my attention, I’d probably turn to something else (there sure as hell is enough out there to do so). What better way to keep the crowd attentive than to string out the romance for as long as you can. Loosing my attention would have to mean that there’s nothing left to stay for. Do you know what I stay for? Answers. I won’t ever say no to answers. If your book poses a question, I’m going to stay there for the answer. I can’t not know. It’s my habit (one that has bit me in the ass one to many times). And what’s worse than not knowing who the protagonist will stay with? Goodness gracious, if I invest time in a love triangle, I'd better get to know the outcome. 

2. Capturing the “teenage experience”
I’ve seen this excuse travel around quite a lot. It’s a go-to. Is it really the teenage experience to desperately want to love two others and not know which to pick because you don’t want to miss out on any of it? Probably. For some. For others, not for all. I don’t know what generalised teenage experience this is, but it sure as hell wasn’t mine (or am I about to be in for a shock because I didn’t have my “teenage experience” correctly. As you can see, this isn’t my favourite “excuse”.) 

3. Fandom interaction equals unanticipated publicity which, shocker, equals sales
At the end of the day, if your book doesn’t sell the prospects of another one (especially in a series) lie quite low. But you know what gets the sales going? Publicity. And what type of publicity works better than fans fighting for their “ship”. I don’t know about you but I’ve been sucked into way too many books based purely on the ship war. I see one. I think, “Jess, what are you missing out on? What is this supposed gem that’s getting the crowd riled up?” And then I’m roped in because that damning curiosity of mine must know (and lo and behold, I dig my own grave and therefore must lie in it). Wow, this happened to me with Splintered which, although holds its ground, did not attract me until I noticed the big Jeb vs. Morpheus fight. 

5. Testing the waters of polygamy.
The history of the world goes something like polygamy, polygamy, polygamy, monogamy, monogamy, monogamy with slower and slower societal indifference to polygamy (keep in mind that when I say “ monogamy”, it’s more like official monogamy discounting whatever.) Once we realised that men having a billion and one wives was wrong on so many levels, society turned to monogamy. But have you realised that lately there have been nonchalant tones and attitudes flying around. The amount of times that I’ve heard people say things like, “So what, just cheat” or “Where’s your other girlfriend/boyfriend” shocks me. All the fuss over monogamy is slowly loosening. There’s now this greater acceptance for having your cake and eating it too (do you understand how long I’ve waited to use that idiom?!!) And it seems like fiction is where everyone is testing out the waters for this new idea. Slowly and slowly, there are themes that advocate cheating (of which I do not condone). With the love triangle, more often than not, we have a character that fails to DTR (define the relationship. I’m your go-to urban dictionary) and takes that opportunity to go in for a smooch (or two. Often it’s two) and profess “personal confusion”. Do I love this person, or do I love the other? Urgh. I feel a connection to both. It’s like taking a dip in the baby end of polygamy. Better off not getting too deep if you ask me. 

I realise that I’ve raised a fair amount of questions. Most of this is personal opinion. Others are just some thoughts accrued from analysing where societal mentality is heading. I’m not saying that this is where the majority lies. I’m just saying that out there, someone’s nurturing these opinions. It’s a lot to take in. But I want your opinions on anything that takes your fancy in this post. Personally, I don’t know where I stand. This was just my own personal exploration into the domain of why? Why is the sky blue? Why do we eat with utensils? Why are there so many triangles of love? 

So please, share your opinion. I’d love to know. 

40 comments:

  1. See, you've done such an in-depth thing here whereas my argument is normally: LOVE TRIANGLES SUCK. It's slightly less mature and well-rounded than your post :P

    Seriously though, I can't abide by triangles. In any form. They annoy me endlessly and I kind of thing of them as a bit of a lazy plot device. Like, oh look, not much else is happening so let's use this for drama! It just never works for me and so I actively avoid triangle books :(

    I was so glad when ToG turned out not to really be a triangle (and I hope it never will become one) and so disappointed when Shatter Me turned into one. Triangles can completely destroy books for me (I know, I know, I'm so dramatic! Hehe)

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    1. I totally get how you feel. Triangles always feel like an extra burden that is just seriously unnecessary. I mean, I come for plot not a love saga. But it's so hard for me to avoid triangles because they're just about in everything that I read nowadays =___________=

      I sincerely hope that ToG never dips its toes anywhere near the triangle again. One scare was enough. And the Shatter Me triangle was just so dramatic towards the end. Everyone depended on heightened emotions that just felt so unnatural!

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  2. Wow, this was quite in-depth!

    To put it simply, love triangles are a pain in the arse. Am I expected to cheer for the other guy when I know there's no way in hell he'll end up with the heroine? No. Thank. You. In the end it just feels like they're wasting my time with all that "back and forth" that's going on.

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    1. I totally got lost in my train of thought. I never thought it would get this unruly :b

      YES. I HATE KNOWING THAT MY EFFORTS ARE GOING TO BE FRUITLESS. It frustrates me so much. It's totally a waste of time because, despite it all, the ending has been predetermined already!

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  3. Love triangles are weird. I like them when it's obvious who the main love interest and the secondary guy/girl is OBVIOUSLY there to cause conflict/tension, which I'm totally fine with. #AngstFortheWin. Love triangles frustrate me when it's not obvious who the main love interest is, it could be either this dude, or this dude. Then I'm like, I CAN'T PUT ALL MY EGGS INTO HIS BASKET!

    1. Series - I totally get the love interest-switching for the sake of a long series which should have lots of ups and down, change-ups. It just so happens that the only series where this happens, I actually liked it (The Girl of Fire & Thorns, Shatter Me). Mostly b/c I thought the original dude was blaaahhh. And the new dude is hot, ahahaha. But when a secondary guy is thrown in who's not well-developed or who's obviously a foil for the original love interest, ughhh.
    2. This is also my least favorite reason. Unless you're a teenager growing up in a dystopian setting, then maybe for them, yeah.
    3. Oh man, I get sucked into fandoms, too. Like I really wasn't interested in finishing the Shatter Me series until I saw the massive Adam vs. Warner debate, and I was like, OH SNAP. I haven't read Splintered. I have to get on that.
    4. What happened to 4? Is this prejudice against FOUR? hahaha.
    5. Yeah, cheating is not cool. Yes it does happen and I do like books that address cheating in a mature, discussed way. But when cheating just happens...and none of the characters in the book address the fact that cheating HAPPENED and how emotionally crippling it is, it just makes light of the situation, which isn't a good message/theme/take-away. As for polygamy, I can understand the appeal of "harem romances" where a girl is just surrounded by hot dudes. Like, I get that. BUT, not if she's romantically attached to all the dudes. Then it takes away from the "romance". I haven't read either of these series, but I would say Altered and Raven Boys look like "harem romances" to me.

    Anyway, if you can't tell, I loved this post. Love your opinion pieces :)

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    1. OMG NUMBER FOUR IS MISSING?! I KNEW I MISSED SOMETHING. I KNEW IT.

      110% to what you said. I've got a lot of love to give. I can't give that love when I'm unsure where it should be going!!! I'd rather distinctly know that a certain character is just there for show because that way I know I won't be disappointed, frustrated and bald (because with me, frustration = hair pulling)

      1. I feel so bad for not having read The Girl of Fire and Thorns. What kind of fantasy fan am I?! I'll get there. Oh yeah, I'll admit, it's a nice touch when the new character triumphs over the original one because bland just kills me. I WANT SPICE.

      2. I hate this reason as well. And it's unbelievable the amount of times that I've heard it. No, just no.

      3. YES READ SPLINTERED. And then prepare to want to claw your eyes out. That's one love triangle that I love to hate. I can't turn away because the series is so damn good but the love triangle eclipses EVERYTHING. I can't even. The last book comes out on my birthday so...If it's not the end that I bargained for, shit's going to go down.

      4. Once again, I sincerely apologise to four. In my defense, when I posted this, I just had an inkling that something needed to be corrected.

      5. Cheating as a plot device kills everything for me. I don't get it. What's to gain, you know? I haven't read Altered buuuuut I'd classify the Raven Boys as friendship more than anything. Come to think of it, The Raven Boys is such a weird case when it comes to me; I'm fickle here, you see. Actually no. There's only one ship in my eyes. And I sail it, so...

      I'm glad you enjoyed this one! It means so much to me. THANK YOUUUUU<33333

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  4. I'm okay with certain love triangles, but they are becoming way overdone. I like that it adds to the drama and keeps people reading, but sometimes they are done horribly. If they are done right, I can tolerate them, but most of the time, I just read past them because I know that it'll all fizzle out in the end.

    By the way, I thought I'd let you know that I've nominated your blog for the Sisterhood of World Bloggers Award. If you're interested in doing it, check out my post!

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    1. Love triangles just such all the energy out of you, right? Nowadays, I can't even be bothered to get emotionally invested, or too excited or involved and whatnot because it all comes to an end. And when you're on the loosing side...It feels like crap.

      Thank you so much, Erin! <33

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  5. I would prefer not to have love triangles but don't mind them...when done right. Which let's face it, most of the time they aren't done right. If you're gonna give me a fucking love triangle, then you better make both guys have a standing chance. I want both guys to be a clear choice for a love interest from the beginning. I hate when a new love interest comes along in book 2 or after. No, no , no! I hate when it's obvious that one guy will win. I hate when the other poor guy doesn't even stand a chance. I hate that it always have to be a good guy against a bad boy. Why can't they both be two good guys, or two bad boys??? And please for the love of all that is holy, you never EVER 'solve' a love triangle by killing off one character or worse, having them 'sacrifice' themselves for true love. That is such bullshit and not to mention a copout. And please, don't solve the problem by making the other love interest fall in love with your daughter. (Twilight)
    I like when both guys have an equal chance of winning and when they both have their strong and weak points. Most of all, I like when it drives me crazy that I can't decide who I want the MC to end up with. That is a good love triangle. Sadly, they are hardly ever done right :(
    Also, I hate the fact that it's acceptable for a girl to be interested din two guys but if a guy is interested in two girls, he's a jerk or a manwhore...
    Great post!

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    1. Most of the time these love triangles don't make use of the opportunity they get. Instead, they botch it up. I agree that they should at least have a standing chance, but I'd rather that over time one becomes more obvious than the other, you know? Because nothing kills me more than being blind sighted at the end. BUT I HATE THE INTRODUCTION OF LOVE INTEREST #2 in BOOK 2. That just about destroys a book for me. I have high hopes for decent romance and then suddenly I feel conned because here they are, sticking a love triangle down my throat. That's such a big no in my book.

      I JUST HATE THE BLACK VS. WHITE, GOOD VS. EVIL, HOT VS. KIND stereotype. I'd rather we get to equal guys rather than opposite ends of the spectrum because then I feel like the protagonist just wants a bit of everything. And life just doesn't allow for that.

      Oh the kill of one character is pretty much the worst deus ex machina there is. I hate it. It's such a lazy, "I can't be fucked" ending. Especially in a series because it turns out that everything was just a waste of time.

      OH YEAH. DOUBLE STANDARD, RIGHT?! Urgh. We need equality. Asap.

      Thank you! <33 I loved your thoughts. They really gave me something extra to think about!

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  6. You've clearly thought about this a lot! Also, that first gif is excellent.

    I tend to be fickle as well - as long as a love triangle is written well, I don't mind it. I mean, even Shakespeare wrote love triangles so I don't see anything wrong with them AS SUCH. I just hate that they're in SOOO many YA books, because like you said, that has not been part of my "teenage experience." Which is why none of the novels I've writte so far have had love triangles.

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    1. Oh yeah. It's what I think about when I should be going to bed (this post came poring out close to midnight because life doesn't want to me to sleep like a human being.) Emma just adds the perfect touch, right?

      They're everywhere and it's avoidable so I know that if I'm just all round hating, I'd never get anywhere. OMG. EMILY. THE DAY WILL COME WHEN I DEVOUR YOUR STORIES.

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  7. I suppose I'm sort of like you in that I don't like love triangles. I try to avoid books with love triangles. Yet...I'm totally rooting for Team Jacob. Also, I've noticed my ship is NEVER the one the author chooses, which leaves me wondering, "is there something wrong with me"? Or perhaps as a 26 year old woman, do I just totally see how that young man is all sorts of wrong for that young woman even though he is totally handsome and brooding and devil-may-care, and if I'm honest, my 16 year-old self would have lusted over him?

    To me, love triangles are a worn out conflict, and they don't really aid much in character development. It's disappointing that they are in so many books. I'll pick up books thinking this will be a harmless non-romancy sort of book and then BAM love triangle...because out heroine has to overcome all odds and bypass all warning signs in order to recognize her true desires. Boo.

    - Jackie

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    1. I've been having that kind of year as well! As in, I was alright with this whole shipping year before. I normally hopped onto the "right" one. BUT THIS YEAR HAS BEEN TERRIBLE AND IT'S PERHAPS WHY I'M SO UPSET NOW. They're everywhere but I just can't seem to choose the right one which is alright at first but when it becomes a string of failure, the confidence really goes down, you know? Sometimes I just think that I've grown out of the triangle as well. It certainly seems like so. I'm sure a younger me wouldn't have minded as such.

      Triangles are just there. I feel like I gain pretty much nothing from it. But apparently the heroine gains everything from a love triangle. It seems to be a common theme that once her true desires are fulfilled, whatever quest she was there for in the first place is also conveniently easier to overcome. It kills me.

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  8. I cringe when people mention love triangles, sometimes avoid books because of them. There are a few books that are better for them, but that's mostly because I didn't like the main love interest. (Mal in Grisha for one.) So adding the more interesting other guy is a plus, but if the 'other' guy was the only guy it would be better. So, even though a fickle heroine leading two guys on is annoying, sometimes it's better to have two guys than just one boring one.

    lol @ having your cake and eating it too. Nice post. :)

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    1. Yeah, I totally understand when the new introduction adds a different dynamic to the group. It gets a little less bland. I'm with you on Mal. I hated him. With a passion. Unbelievable. That's still a sore spot for me.

      Isn't it just the idiom of the year? It's my favourite one and it just doesn't get used enough! Thank you for sharing your thoughts, Molly!! <33

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  9. Love triangles are a 50/50 thing with me. I guess it really depends on who the author is and if I've read a book from the past by he/she before and loved it or not. Haha, it's all because of either way for me, I guess. But if it's instalove mixed with love triangles? I want to barf. It's just something you CAN'T do. Book-writing and plotting should have a dictionary or encyclopedia or RULEBOOK.

    I totally agree with you. There are so many situations where a love triangle cannot possibly work out, but then there are those times where I'm fine with them, like you've mentioned! Capturing the "teenage experience" is awesome, and I totally support a girl being caught between two guys. I guess it all depends on the situation. I'M DEFINITELY PREACHING YOUR POST HERE. ;D

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    1. OMG INSTA!LOVE AND TRIANGLES WOULD BE THE WORST POSSIBLE COMBINATION. Oh. I hate that with a passion. It should be burned.

      It's weird, right, how sometimes we can stand a certain triangle, whilst other times we dislike it with a passion. The situation definitely just makes or breaks it for me!

      AAAH MICHELLE THANK YOU! You're a gem, you ;) <3333

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  10. Even tho I don't care for love triangles, sometimes I find myself getting sucked in anyway. It kinda sucks, bc despite the fact I don't usually like them, here I am taking a side anyway lol. There are very few times when I can justify a love triangle. It has to do with how good the story is and how much is depended on the love interest. It's the main plot? Pass. The are those few times tho where everything is solid and for whatever reason, the love triangle seems plausible and it's done realistically, those are the only times I can enjoy them :)
    Great post, Jess!

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    1. OH YEAH, I HATE WHEN IT BECOMES THE MAIN PLOT! I've got no patience for that. I cheer whenever there's a realistic "love triangle" (or as realistic as it can be) but they're so rare. Truly once in a lifetime, those triangles are. Thank you Diamond!! <33

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  11. Oh gosh, this is so detailed and amazing I just...I have no eloquent opinion. The only thing I can add is: when triangles were a "thing" (I guess when The Hunger Games and Twilight made it The Thing To Do) everyone said "let me write one". So it can take up to 5 years to get a book out. We're still on the tale end of those books coming out. ALSO. Sometimes I have a suspicion that authors to really read. I DON'T KNOW FOR SURE. But so many books sound the same and use the same things that everyone complains about...I wonder if authors don't notice because they kind of distance themselves?? I mean, I get that. But then again, I don't. I think authors need to be aware what's already on the market.

    All being said: I DO NOT MIND A GOOD LOVE-TRIANGLE. All I ask is that both sides are actually decently written characters who are interesting and have humanish tendencies. When it's really obviously who's going to "get the girl/guy" it's just....bleh. Boring. The shipping can be fun. But I do know that if a blurb says triangle...I leave.

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    1. (I'll let you in on a secret. I was totally just rambling to myself hahaha)

      :O THAT IS PRETTY MUCH THE BEST EXPLANATION THAT I'VE HEARD. THE AFTERMATH! It all makes sense now. Oh yeah...it begs the question, right? Because everything is oh so similar nowadays but to know you'd actually have to read the entire book. Which takes time. Which I don't think they have (or maybe are not willing to give up AS MUCH) Hmmm...definitely a good thought to ponder!

      Oh Yeah! I'll admit. I love doing a bit of shipping. Especially if we get well developed characters who are worth investment. But you know what I also hate? When we're thoroughly into the series and THEN they spring the triangle on us. Then I'm just super annoyed =____=

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  12. Hmm, this is a really interesting post. When it comes to love triangles, I can be very split. For me--it just depends on the novel itself. Sometimes, I like them. Sometimes, I wonder why they're there. It's when the plot is completely centered around the love triangle that it bothers me--sometimes, and this is just pure speculation, I even feel that authors include love triangles because they're "all the rage" you know? When a couple of novels featuring love triangles sell well, then I believe other authors are likely to follow in on that trope. But hey, like I said, not all love triangles make me want to throw the book across the room. Though in some instance, they could definitely do without.

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    1. Yeah, no, I totally get you. I feel like sometimes they're just pressured to put the triangle in because all the cool kids are doing it. I just hope the trend dies down soon. Yeah, sometimes I can weirdly stand it so it just depends! (on what circumstance, I have no idea LOL)

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  13. I think authors still believe this is what we want and no matter how horrible the love-triangle, the book still sells. Perhaps they still think they can pull it off or perhaps they think it adds another layer to their story? Sometimes authors prove me wrong, because there are definitely a couple of series that got it right!

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    1. Yeah, I'll admit. Despite the fact that we all hate it, the book still manages to generate great sales so I suppose it's not really a loss, right? You're totally right though. I've read some great love triangles but the amount of blergh ones really rock that balance.

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  14. ALL RIGHT IT'S TIME TO JOIN IN THIS RANT BECAUSE I'M FREAKING DONE WITH LOVE TRIANGLES.

    So here's the thing: I can handle BELIEVABLE and WELL-DONE love triangles. *(predictably) pulls out Throne of Glass for...reasons* (I checked your GR to make sure you read it so I wouldn't spoil anything for you) I think SJ Maas's love triangle was well done. Celaena was more interested in Dorian in the first book but realized their relationship would likely never work, and so in Crown of Midnight she allowed the feelings she shared for Chaol to grow. Wow, yes, believable. Why? Because she wasn't fickle about it. She didn't spend the entire ToG going "Hm...Dorian. Oh but no, Chaol!" which would have pissed me off. I genuinely liked both options for her, but in the end preferred Chaol.

    In a roundabout way, here's my point: I think if the MC (where it's a hero or heroine) goes through the love triangle believably I'm OKAY with it. But if they're flip-flopping back and forth and not sure and just "testing the waters"? Yeah, I'm gonna be pissed.

    Love triangles are definitely a marketing ploy. I mean think about it: it's the shipping thing. Are you Team blah blah or Team blah blah blah? Flail about it. Spread the word. Tell everyone about how great your ship is. GET THEM TO READ THIS BOOK. And suddenly...sales! I also didn't mind Leigh Bardugo's love...rectangle?? And I didn't mind it because I hated Mal, loved the Darkling, and really liked Sturmhond. So the Darkling and Nikolai more than made up for what pissed me off about Mal.

    I'm seriously not even making sense and this comment is becoming obnoxiously long but MY POINT IS love triangles are a marketing ploy I do NOT understand. Readers ALWAYS complain about them and the only time they don't is when the love triangle is well-done and interesting, but love triangles are rarely more than a girl whining about how much she can't choose. Quit. Freaking. Publishing. This. Crap.

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    1. PREACH IT!

      Definitely. What I appreciated about ToG was in the end, the choice was clear, resolute and didn't drag out.

      MCs that dip their fingers into every pot will just kill me. I become this raging monster because wtf, right? You can't just test try everything. At this point, the marketing ploy is the only reason I truly believe in. All that attention they get from shipping is crazy. I get pulled in aalll the time so I'm a great example. (Oh, I so hated Mal as well. That's still a sore spot for me.)

      I THINK YOU MADE MORE SENSE THAN ME LOL I will never understand why the public consensus isn't heard. It's like we're ignored. They're given crap all the time for shallow love triangles and yet that's the only thing that keeps getting published.

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  15. I still blame Twilight (that's right, I said it.)

    But like you said, a book requires investment. I hate investing in a potential character only to see that my MC is swaying towards the other party. It's enough to make me lower my rating. This has happened to me with both Shadow and Bone and Throne of Glass. I had my "OTP" picked out and then, everything just went left and I couldn't catch up.

    As for the high school experience, I must have missed the memo then. And no dystopian/high fantasy novel can claim that it's going for the high school experience because reasons!

    Ah, you've got me all worked up now Jess! :p

    Amber Elise @Du Livre

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    1. No shame! We're all thinking as well!

      Exactly! When your OTP becomes fruitless, a waste of time, it just sucks all the energy out of you. (And I can tell that we picked the same sides in both Shadow and Bone and ToG. I was booing in those books. Super disappointed. My heart couldn't take it)

      You and me both. I did not get any of this so-called experience!

      HAHAHA I can't help it! I was super agitated when I wrote this one as well (and then the next book that I dived into was a love triangle AGAIN OMG)

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  16. Brilliant post Jess!

    Love triangles or any type of more than three sided shape are horrid. I put it down to the Twilight phenomena. The generic plain girl with two hot guys vying for her affections. It puts the reader in her shoes where they feel like they're a special snowflake that has her choice of suitors. It really undermines the intelligence of YA readers, that they're all boy chasing teens who want to be wanted. It's ridiculous. Like a few other replies, It's all about the author building the suspense and I think by book three, most authors seem to cater to the audience by allowing their MC to select the more popular choice and cutting the other one free. The only thing worse is instant love.

    It's so refreshing when authors are willing to put in the time to create incredible characters that have realistic relationships, not just the usual bullshit so many of them try to serve us.

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    1. Thank you!! <3333

      This is just scratching the surface, right? There's this current rise in the love square and it's not looking bright for the future. Why anyone thought that was a good idea is beyond me. Yeah, I'm glad that by the last book everything clears up a bit (but sometimes, oddly enough, the suppppppper unpopular choice takes the day and nobody can understand why :b) The ultimate "pull-my-hair-out" combination would have to be an instant love, love triangle. Oh, it's just like a being condemned to hell for the reader.

      I love when you can actually connect to the relationship. It helps the story so, so much. When will they ever pick this up?!

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  17. I love this post! I am such a hater of love triangles, but that doesn't stop me from picking sides either. I really don't understand why love triangles seem to be sticking around, especially when there is so much hate for them. I don't think they add anything to the story and I hate how much time the main character spends worrying about the love interests. Just pick someone, anyone or no one, or choose to be alone. Just decide on something.

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    1. You'd think that with all the hate that someone would pick it up and scrap it. But no. I'm totally with you. The indecision is just what kills me. I wish the characters wouldn't swing back and forth like a pendulum =_________=

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  18. Okay, so love triangles are as bad as insta-love, or worse actually. Is like a trending thing in the YA world: everybody has to fall in love within seconds and of course not only with one person, but with two!! Is exhausting really because most of the time they are not well written, but all over the place and it bothers me, a lot.

    Personally I think love triangles are overrated... And I couldn't stand it if it happened to me, like I said before it would be exhausting LOL but when I start reading a book with two love interest I do cave in as well and most of the time I end up picking a side. And I will confess that is nice to see and participate in ship-wars, especially on Tumblr (people can sometimes be seriously hilarious)

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    1. How mentally taxing would it be to have to swing back and forth, right? Who has time for that LOL Sometimes I just want them to pick one and get it over with. But I hate how it's become a trend and every second book is just a shipping war waiting to happen.

      Oh the tumblr wars. They get passionate and sometimes I'm quite concerned O_O

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  19. And there you go taking the words right out of my mouth again and putting them to writing much more eloquently than I could ever hope to! I HATE love triangles. And since I'm a sucker for happily-ever-after, I don't pick based on who I like but on WHO I THINK WILL WIN. And LOL at why everything has to be in a series these days...Give me a standalone with one perfectly imperfect guy any time. Brilliant writing and even more brilliant content, Jess :)

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    1. Awww! Thank you! x

      YESSSSSSSSS I find myself picking who I think will win too because...in the end, it's a little less heartbreaking. I hate loosing so... :/ That sounds like my PERFECT standalone. If only someone would write one....

      I'm glad you enjoyed this discussion! <33 x

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  20. I never really thought about this issue in so much detail! But seeing it now, I can clearly recognize where you are going! There are a lot of reasons why authors put love triangles in there books, and some really do hit the sales because of it. I am one of those people who don't mind a love triangle as long as it is executed well. Otherwise, I will be one of those people wishing they didn't exist altogether at all!

    http://olivia-savannah.blogspot.nl/2014/10/nightmare-before-christmas-notd.html

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    1. Execution really is the key, isn't it? Some are done extremely well and you it just works (note: Snow Like Ashes). Other than that, I'm grumbly whenever love triangles occur =_=

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